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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 11:42:00 -
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Gotta love how the word "pvp" can be manipulated to suit your argument.
You say "pvp" is everything you do in eve(selling/buying, minerals, chatting, etc) when it comes to poll results
At the same time you also say that pvp only counts when blowing up player ships and that others should do the same do the same
Bloody hypocrites, you are like those feminists with double standards.
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 12:34:00 -
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lollerwaffle wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Quote:John Turbefield GÇÅ@CCP_Diagoras
Locations of active chars with more than 5m SP just after midnight: High Sec 66.00%, Low sec 7.37%, Null sec 20.73%, Wormhole Space 5.89%
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8:12 AM - 29 Feb 12 via web -+ Details Actually, you're either lying or you suck at reading comprehension. Tweet says: Active CHARACTERS not PLAYERS. Those are 2 very different things. Also, I believe from Tippia's POV, what he/she/it/?? means by Hi-sec players refers to highsec ONLY players. The proportion of players that reside exclusively in Hi-sec would, by any logic, be lower than the 66% (NOT 75%) quoted. tl;dr. Stop lying
Thats nitpicking at best, they are still active subscribers regardless. If the majority of the active subscribers are in high sec, regardless if their "mains" are in null/low then clearly the majority enjoy high sec more.
Stop lying to yourself by thinking that everyone wants to live in low/null and shoot anything thats not blue. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 13:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Thats nitpicking at best, they are still active subscribers regardless. It's not nitpicking. It's a critical distinction: it means they're not counting players or accounts, but something that can distributed completely freely without any connection to where said players actually spend their time. Quote:If the majority of the active subscribers are in high sec, regardless if their "mains" are in null/low then clearly the majority enjoy high sec more. GǪand that's just it: GǣifGǥ. There is nothing in the numbers to suggest that. Oh, and no, it doesn't follow that the majority enjoys highsec more.
Now you are twisting my words. "If as in results show" now "If the results show"
"Active characters" is "not counting players or accounts" ? What ?
You are under assumption that those 66% are just "visiting" highsec to buy stuff so they can head back home to those 33%, please.
If everyone is in highsec then surely we don't enjoy it. After all we are all masochists.
Go check the map and see which space has more orange. It will always be highsec regardless of when you check it. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
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Posted - 2012.06.08 13:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Characters on active accounts is not the same thing as active characters (I have characters on my active account that haven't been used in months), nor is it the same thing as active accounts (I have three characters on this account), or the same thing as a a player (GǪand who knows how many accounts I have).
The population distribution of characters on active accounts cannot trivially be translated into player distribution because there is no way to know which location is the GÇ£correctGÇ¥ one. I'll use this example again: a player has two accounts. He has filled out every slot on those accounts with characters. Four of the six characters are parked in the four empire trade hubs; one character is parked in a lowsec system to be used as an instant cyno; the last, main, character is in null, because this is a nullsec player.
GǪand will still count characters, not players.
CCP took data from active characters, character is obviously not classed as "active" if you don't log in as him/her on your account. It would be STUPID to count characters that are currently not logged on.
You can have all the characters you want, anywhere you want, but they are not active unless they are online in game.
I have this guy and an ugly forum troll character on this only account, by your logic if im logged in as Kiteo in Jita then im also logged in as the ugly troll character. Its only a +1 in local not +2.
What ccp did was took the numbers of all locals and converted them into %.
End of the day, the character IS logged in AND he/she is placed in THAT certain region FOR a reason.
That REASON can be different for everyone, but it doesn't change the fact that there are MORE "population" in highsec. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
137
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Posted - 2012.06.08 13:46:00 -
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You are saying "Average Pilots in Space in the last 30 Minutes" means "Inactive character on the active account of some player whose other character on the same account is elsewhere" ? Seriously ? |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
137
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Posted - 2012.06.08 14:27:00 -
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Here:
Identical Twins go out into town. One goes into ice cream shop that has a few people there already, the other goes into toy shop that has less people.
More identical twins arrive, one to ice cream, one to toy shop.
People see that the ice cream shop has more people, they assume that more people like ice cream and that less people want to buy toys.
Forum is broken for me, won't let me post my original reply if i copy it, but Malphilos is conveying my ideas just fine :) |
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